Susan Sarandon Somehow Under The Impression That Her Continuing Presence In This Country Is An Incentive To Vote Democratic
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wat a fool she is..
ReplyDeleteokay, i'm still not sure who i'm voting for, but this is incentive to vote for McCain.
ReplyDeleteI dont like celebrities that do stuff like this, although i still joke that I'll move to canada if Hillary is elected. I dont think i have to worry about that, though.
I did like Bernard and Doris, though. Does that make me look like an old woman who watches lifetime? (it was totally on HBO and i was bored)
I've never understood statements like this, after all, who goes into the voting booth, even if they are a fan of Susan Sarandon, and decides to pull a lever out of fear she will move. Mind you, I have no doubt that it will organize people that dislike the politics of her and her husband to go and vote for John McCain, even if they aren't fans of McCain , being rid of the likes of Sarandon will be reason enough.
ReplyDeleteI've never liked her politics, not since she stopped reading off the telepromter at some oscars or something and started going on and on about something that i dont even remember. I'm sure that it was a very valid "cause" and was important, but her approach turns me away. Its like "dude, you are there to give an award, just give the damn award".
ReplyDeletewhat makes u think it was a valid cause..
ReplyDeleteJust because I think it was a valid cause, i'm not saying i agree with it. I respect other people's politics. I dont necessarily remember which one of her 'cause celeb's it was, but I'm sure it was important to her, and to many other people at the time.
ReplyDeleteUsually with these fanatics, i agree with at least the basic nugget at the core of their teeth-gnashing, ribbon-wearing, interview-granting intent.
I am not, however, packing up to move to Canada. (i heard canadians are kinda weird, lol)
most of thier causes are not valid , whether they believe in the or not..
ReplyDeletewhy are u having trouble deciding who to vote for..?
obama hasnt attacked whites or apologized to al-queda enough?
see, people keep saying stuff like that. I'm just asking people to SHOW ME actual facts about that. I have seen nothing so far.
ReplyDeleteSo i just havent chosen yet.
And why do you say that their causes are NOT valid? This may sound harsh, but who are you to judge what is or is not valid to a person?
i am not judging what is valid to a person,,,im judging whether a cause is valid...
ReplyDeleteyour definition states that anything anyone beleives in is valid.. this is not a good definition in my opinion...
maybe she was speaking on nambla... north american man boy love association,,, wanting people to embrace it... is that valid?
u want evidence that b hussein obama is a racist?
ReplyDeletedo u have a tv?
ill be glad to show u..
im heading out for the weekend however...
ill look u up later,,,
ill show u more than that,,,
that hes as big a radical as susan there..
later.
yes, i'd like to see non-biased (non-media) evidence that obama is a racist.
ReplyDeleteno, i dont watch much tv, usually i'm watching movies, or working my ass off.
please, do, "look me up".
and no, i dont think that "anything anyone believes in" is valid, i said its valid TO THEM. It's important to them. Again, I dont have to agree with something for it to be valid to someone else. Killing millions of jews was a valid cause to Hitler, i very much disagree with it. Validity is subjective.
doesnt her face look like a plastic barbie there?
ReplyDeleteNO.. u are wrong. validity is NOT subjective...
ReplyDeletevalidity means JUSTIFIED..
so u are saying hitler was just in murdering 6 million people,,,
that a child rapist is justified in raping an infant?
ofcourse not,,, valid means VALID.. not invalid..
as far as obama..
ReplyDeletenon media??? so u want me to find cave drawings or something?
why would i not use media to show exactly what an American hating racist bigoted criminal obama hussein is..?
I just checked several sources, and not in any of them did i see the word "valid" defined as justified. So no, i dont think that Hitler was JUST in murdering anyone, etc. That is NOT what i said. In fact, i'm pretty sure i said i DISAGREE with it.
ReplyDeleteValid: adj.
1. Based on good judgment, reasoning, or evidence
So while i disagree with it, millions of Europeans, including Hilter himself, thought he had very good REASONING or EVIDENCE that the Jews of Europe needed to be exterminated. He stood up on a stage and told everyone how he felt about a political situation, people agreed with him and thought that his idea had merit, or was VALID. Obviously we know today just how wrong that man was, but it doesnt change how he was PERCEIVED at the time, by those people.
Likewise, I'm sure it can be granted that Sarandon has good "reasoning" skills; so her arguements are valid. I'm sure she has evidence to support her arguement. I do not question her general judgment.
As far as Obama, no, i dont want any media sources. I dont want to hear "CNN says that Obama is a racist" or "O'Riley had some guy on last night that said Obama is a racist". I want sources that i can check. I dont want opinions, i'll form my own, thanks.
And yea, she does look like a barbie, but thats what happens when you get the plastic surgery. : )
that definition is the same as just...
ReplyDelete1. Based on good judgment, reasoning, or evidence---not " what anyone thinks is good reasoning..."
so if i do a math problem and cant figure it out and come up with the wrong reasoning based upon a faulty theory,,, then its VALID,,? cause i thought it? huh?
it doesnt say ...valid is Whatever anyone thinks is correct ...thats what u are saying it is..PERCEPTION is what is NOT in any definition ....
valid means just.. just means good judgement,, lol.. its all the same...
your point of view seems to be.. whatever anyone believes...is valid...
if i believe u are mentally insane,, and need to die,, then thats valid..
if i go around saying u are the reason why the unemployment in england is 9.6%.. then its valid...lol
no...thats not what it means.. and not every viewpoint is valid,,,
u think there is no irrationality in the world,,,i guess we can do away with the word irrational then.
no susans ideas,, if u listen to them, are not well thought out,, any more than hitlers were,,,
he also thought in his deranged head that he could take over the world,, he faced the reality in his bunker that this thought was not valid and he blew his brains out..
well, would u accept media quotes from barry himself,, or the racist church he belongs to?
ReplyDeletei think if orielly has someone on that explains why b hussein is a racist with documentation why would that not be credible? or valid?
valid TO THEM. god, how many times do i have to SAY that. It may not be valid to YOU, and it may not be valid to ME, but its valid TO THEM. That was my point, and you are just ice skating right over it. Further, it its NOT up to me, or to YOU to determine what is VALID TO A PERSON, including Susan Sarandon, and including Hitler. It is up to YOU to determine for YOURSELF if you DISAGREE.
ReplyDeleteand yes, i dont think that her ideas are well thought out, but SHE DOES. SHE THINKS THEY ARE VALID. again, this is my point.
And none of your ramblings above make any sense. I'd love to sit here and continue to argue it with you, but a) this is not my blog, b) I am technically at work, and c) your intolerance of any one else's opinion makes me really tired of discussing it with you.
no i summarized your point,, that u think u can take the word valid and make it mean something other than what it means...
ReplyDeleteit is your ramblings that make no since and have no validity...
honestly,,, valid is a very simple word,, and the fact that u can read the definition and STILL not UNDERSTAND IT.. makes u a person in seriously need of an education.
Validity implies TRUTH,, just because I THINK something is TRUE,, does NOT make it true...
ive tried to take the time explain this to you with examples that are understandable to a CHILD.
but it doesnt seem u have the intelligence.
like most people that lack intellect,, u run off,,,afraid to face the fact u are WRONG so u can remain ignorant,,,its pathetic.
ReplyDeletei no longer wonder why u cant seem to figure out,, with all the evidence, that obama hussein is a black supremist, and friend of farrakahn,,, u are a simpleton.
you just keep saying what you BELIEVE the word means, not what the dictionary says it does. It doesnt make it so.
ReplyDeleteLike i said, come up with some evidence.
and if you think that i need an education, which ivy league college taught you punctuation?
Good thing i find your opinions laughable, or I might be very offended.
I have yet to see where Obama and Farrakhan are ever seen together. I see this sort of 6 degrees of separation theory, where, his former pastor was friends with the guy, but I know lots of people who have friends, acquaintances and what not that aren't cited to their friends of friends or acquaintances of acquaintances. Kessler's article is a nice diatribte, but fails to actually connect the two except through some third party. It would be akin to saying the President is a Farrakhan supporter simply because Qadaffi has supported the Nation of Islam in the past and Bush has lifted most of the sanctions we had in place with dealing with Qadaffi's Libya and wants to make it an ally of the United States.
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't mean I think Obama hasn't made lapses in judgement, I most certainly think he has. Being a member of Trinity in Chicago while running for Illinois state office might be a politically savvy thing, when running for President of the United States it is not and taking as long as he has to renounce the church, first by just disagreeing with Wright, then by distancing himself from him after the National Press Club incident and finally this weekend from leaving the church aftor a second pastor took the pulpit in the church and went off about white entitlement. That is just bad politics, something that may have been in the news cycle for a week, has instead been in it for a couple of months now, it has become the story that just won't die, and part of that is squarely on him. Likewise, his dealings with Rezko leave a lot do be desired. Getting tied in with what some in Chicago would call a slumlord, who will be dealing with a federal indictment during election season isn't going to be good press for Obama either.
None of the candidates we get in the fall will be flawless, just as Obama (assuming he is the nominee) will have baggage, some of which I just went through, McCain will get to relive the Keating 5, and trying to show a McCain presidency will not be a third Bush term for starters. Will make for good political theater, I am making popcorn for the show.
As for the tit for tat regarding vaidity, let's not forget at one point in time we didn't just call Hitler's world view valid, the American Medical Association called it science,..... eugenics.
Politics is always going to be a crap shoot, and the lessor of two evils thing is usually how i look at it. Assuming its going to be Obama and McCain, I'm not really happy with either one of them, and I've stated that previously.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your entire first paragraph, Matt. Regarding Wright, I'm not sure that there was a 'right" way to handle it. Him jumping ship (or church) at first whiff of scandal might have been interpreted just as badly by the press. I do think, though, that he should have left the church behind a lot sooner than he did.
I'm voting Hamburglar for President!
ReplyDeleteHamburglar may get my vote, but then I was an Edwards guy, so what the hell do I know anyway.
ReplyDeleteI'll admit, I do enjoy the good theater that is involved in a campaign. As much as people would like to argue that our politics is more devisive this year, I would tend to disagree, the only thing that has really changed is we have 24/7 cable news channels that are looking to fill time, so the most flamboyent tend to get the most air time. You can go all the way back to George Washington and there were those that thought he wanted to not only be President, but king as well and to set up a monarchy in America, but he didn't have the 24 hr cable news to contend with, lucky for him.
That being said, a candidate has to understand the realities of campaigning in a 24/7 atmosphere as well. The sooner you put bad press behind you the better as the media are content to move onto the next big thing. By Obama trying to have a glorious speech on race in America after the first Wright incident, he prolonged the story, because then it came to be about his speech and whether it worked. Some pundits were all content to trip over themselves in how great a speech it was, until the next Wright incident, then the speech was forgotten and again the church dominated the news cycle. Finally this past week, it caught the news cycle again with the most recent reverend controversy.
The funny thing is, as much as there is supposed to be a separation of church and state, an agnostic or athiest will never get elected, so it is not only the church you attend, but what type of values that church holds. And if you opt to not attend church, it will just be assumed you have no values at all.
I think Matt should run for president!
ReplyDeletemiss bright sides---damn-- how STUPID are YOU woman?
ReplyDeleteYou dont know what the word valid means...
then u read the definition and dont UNDERSTAND IT..
how can i converse with someone that doenst understand what the word VALID means..
its means it means BASED ON GOOD JUDGMENT...
GOOD JUDGEMENT
GOOD= CORRECT
BASED UPON CORRECT JUDGEMENT,,,
NOT ANYTHING THE PERSON THINKS IS CORRECT --BASED ON GOOD JUDGEMENT...
if u cant understand that u really need to get whatever you paid for your education back..
u have to be one of the dumbest people i have ever seen! LOL
matt--
ReplyDeletetheres not six degress of seperation
wright was his admitted spritual advisor--baptized his kids
married him
pastored his church for 20 years...
gave an award to farrakahn.. preaches hate in the church every week
preaches the govt gave blacks aids
claims alqueda are the good guys
now maybe u think that a president should be part of a hate organization against the country he is running to be the leader of...so he can destroy it.. I DONT..
but u cant claim or pretend not to know thats the facts...
as far as "handling the situation"
ReplyDeleteclearly obama hussein stayed in that church because he like every other member u see jumping around like animals everytime some racial crap is mentioned from the pulpit,, that is what he wanted in a church..
now the church has too much hate in it?
too much racism?
too much farrakahn?
NO.. it always did,, B hussein simply got caught..
what happened to rev wright being as close to him as his grandmother?
has he sent a letter to his grandma asking to be out of the familiy now too , hahahahahahah
a) you are an ASSHOLE. hows that for a personal attack?
ReplyDeleteb) so i doubt this will make ANY sense to you, but I'm sure it will to matt........I grew up Lutheran, going to a very conservative lutheran chuch/school, and we went to chapel on wednesdays. My favorite pastor was a Pastor Koeneke (which i'm prolly spelling wrong) mostly because he came down and walked down around us in the church and talked WITH us, not TO us. He told the stories of the bible like it was STORIES, and as kids, it was a lot easier to learn. If i loved jesus at that time, it was because of him.
A few years later, we found out that he'd been cheating on his wife with his secretary, AND embezzling money from the church. He made a lot of mistakes.
So does that make me a bad person, because i loved that man, and he ended up a sinner?
Obama didn't give Farrakhan an award and specific renounced his endosement when Farrakhan offered it. Obama is responsible for his own actions, not those of his reverend or his supporters. Under this argument then John McCain must believe the Catholic Church is a whore and that Hitler was God's tool to get the Jews back to Israel, as his endorsers argued from the pulpit and those were endorsements that he actively sought.
ReplyDeleteno sir,,, although nothing hagee says is hate...and that shows your bias...
ReplyDeletejohn mccain has never been in that church..
obamas close relationships and associations are with outright bigots and racists and people that hate America and people that have spent their life involved with terrorism,,
can u not understand that?
thats not true about mccain,,
its not true about me..
it may be true about u i dont know..
but i KNOW it IS true about b hussein obama...
case closed.
hagee is a huge supporter of isreal,, as all fundementalists are..
ReplyDeletehe simply was preaching that everything is Gods will,,which Christains beleive.. there is no hate for he jews in what he preaches,,,
so stop with the propaganda and excuses for B hussein...
and again,, im going to say this slooooooooooowllyyyyyyy
ReplyDeleteif barrack and his associations are not linked,,, then why did he NOW leave the church?
by leaving his church of 20 years,, hes admitting the things found out about the church are so vile he must disassociate with it,,,,
yet he was there,,., he knew these things from the get go,,, so why didnt he do it then since they are a cult of racism and bigotry?
cause as long as it was in secret,, he didnt want to leave,,, thats the answer matt.
There is no association between Obama and Farrakhan. You can say it till you're blue in the face, but you saying it doesn't make it a reality. Find me one instance where they were together and I may change my mind, but you can't do it. That's the whole point.
ReplyDeleteAnd if Hagee and Paisley weren't preaching hate from the pulpit, why would McCain then renounce their endorsements after actively seeking them? Why not defend them as good Christian men of honor? Easy, they are indefensible, just as Wright and Trinity were for Obama.
ReplyDeleteofcourse there is an association...
ReplyDeletehis CHURCH gave him a lifetime achievement award...
but hey matty.. if that is not good enuff for u...
theres no difference in the hatred by obama husseins pastor and what farrakahn says,,none at all...
"the usa is evil,, killing blacks, alqueda good"
I DONT NEED THE FARRAKAHN ASSOCIATION, WHICH DOES EXIST...I CAN SHOW OBAMA AND WRIGHT TO DEMONSTRATE THE SAME RACISM AND BIGOTRY AND ANTI AMERCAN SENTIMENT...
or are u going to say b hussein and wright has no association either LOL
stupid question on mccain...
ReplyDeletefirst of all,,, i dont think goes to church.. so hes as ignorant as u are on rod parsley and john hagee.. in fact hes never met them or been in their churches so he has to be ignorant,,
then hes fed stuff from the left trying to do what they always do... find anything to try to offset their shit,, rather than have to defend the racism of obama...
i know john mccain is not a fundamentalist,, so he prob doesnt beleive that God orchestrates all the good and the bad in the world,,,
so its easy for him to say,, i dont believe that way,, cause he dont...
that doesnt mean they are preaching hate..
and like i said,,
u cant FIND bigger defenders of jews and isreal than john haggee and rod parsley...
and the fact that u dont know that or somehow are trying to say they hate jews..
makes u a freaking joke matt...
get educated...
your attempst to cover for b hussein are laffable...
ReplyDeleteand NOT VALID.. lol
do i need to explain what not valid is?? lol
anyway.. im off...educated yourself on politics..and evil.
I never said they hated Jews, I said they argued that Hitler was a tool of God to get the Jews to Israel, which wass in fact said.
ReplyDeleteAnd if he is ignorant on the views of people whose endorsement he seeks, just whose fault is that? Goi back to your Newsmax talking points, maybe you'll find some more of those connections you so desparately seek. Might want to check out World Nut Daily while you're at it.
ReplyDeleteThis just in, Hillary confirmed to concede tonight.
ReplyDeleteGetting mixed reports here, AP says she will, her campaign says she won't, Politico is saying that as many as 28 superdelgates will endorse Obama after the polls close in Montana (10pm EST), and he needs all of 36 total delegates to have enough for the nomination, which means he would have to win 8 out of 31 tonight.
ReplyDeleteLMFAO....The comment thread here was like watching two dogs fight over the same bone. In the end it doesn't really matter who your president is. Most people are gonna complain no matter who gets in.
ReplyDeleteNo doubt about that, which is part of the fun of it all. If Obama is the nominee (and I assume he will be), the right will go out of their way to paint him as the angry, black man, and the left will go out of their way to paint McCain as Bush Version 3.0. This stuff is better than what passes for reality programming on TV. And all of this from Susan Sarandon, who probably hasn't had this much ink after her name in the last 5 years.
ReplyDeleteMaybe you should email her and show her this blog so she can feel good about herself again lmao
ReplyDeleteWell, I just blocked the idiot, but I will leave his rantings stand for the time being, It is important to know just what types of jackasses are actually out there.
ReplyDeleteI got five bucks says that he sends me a message.
ReplyDeleteWell my breaking point was when I hopped online and he had a blog update that was "barack has a smelly ass" and that was the entire content of his post. I am not in the mood for intellectual midgetry running rampant on my page. I can think of a number of reasons why to vote or not vote for any of the candidates, but I am not going to sniff their individual ass cracks in making my determination.
ReplyDeletelmao. I'm glad he wasnt on MY contacts list, or even in my close network, i guess. I never saw one of his blogs.
ReplyDeleteGood call, though. Down with with the ass sniffers!
Awww c'mon Matt that's a bit harsh, I mean don't you have any feelings for foreign leaders like our former PM John Howard who spend their whole political careers with their tongue's up the President's arse.
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that the "idiot" was speaking for "christian men" when the idiot hardly conducted himself in such a manner to have his name linked with those men. which brings me back to a blog that Jenn posted about that place she works for and the "christians" who call in and bitch and moan and treat people like crap but yet want to carry the title "christian" its ridiculous to me. as for the whole political thing I agree with what Lee said. It doesnt matter who gets in, something will always be found to complain about. And as far as Matt and sniffing their ass cracks nobody should have to go to that much trouble! I think its great that Matt and several others decide to post and give their opinions on these blogs so that the public who might not otherwise find these news stories can be more informed. If not more enterained for the commentary that usually follows.
ReplyDeleteALSO! why is it that people who dont go to church are ignorant? Maybe they are the smart ones, did you ever think about that? lol
ReplyDelete