Monday, May 3, 2010

Asshat - United we fall

Well since I have been on an almost blogging kick these last few days no need to stop now, not when there is such an easy target out there, this week's Asshat winner, the United Nations, which selected as a member to its Commission on the Status of Women the nation of Iran, which believes that stonings and lashings of women are pretty cool, especially if they do something really crazy, like get a sun tan or something.  Apparently you can beat them (women) and then join them (United Nations).  I think I will go back to having my head in the sand now.

18 comments:

  1. I am unsure why people want to give credibility to the UN. We should de-fund it and let Hillary set at the meetings.

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  2. I have been harsh on the UN in the past in this blog, usually over its general ineffectiveness, or some of the selections made by them, such as the above (Libya on the Human Rights Commision also comes to mind) but thankfully when looking for an Asshat I just have to venture into the previous week and find something stupid that happened, and this qualifies.

    As for who should sit at the meetings, I think Hillarey would be far to forceful for such a body, this looks more like a job for someone of the John Kerry ilk.

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  3. De-fund it? how about you shouldn't have sold out Poland to get it started in the first place!

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  4. Well I will leave the defunding argument to others far more astute than myself, but if there is anyone of a remotely clear mind that can somehow put Iran and women's rights in the same sentence without laughing I have yet to meet them.

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  5. A lot of what may to you & me seem from our Western upbringing,offensive against women, is culturally accepted by women in the middle east. Accepted & welcomed, by women that are far more highly qualified than you or I ever will be.
    Yet we are quite happy to judge & condemn their way of life based upon our Western model....with it's stellar records of crime & violence & more woman victims than anyone else.

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  6. What you would call cultural acceptance I would call beating them into submission. If a man were to come home and on a nightly basis beat the shit out of his wife I wouldn't be arguing that it is cool because she accepts her nightly beatings and doesn't leave, nor am I going to suggest that simply because Iran has institutionalized the process that it is cool now, that simply because someone was born on the wrong spot on the globe that simply by having the sun touch their skin, that's reason for a government sanctioned ass-kicking. Under that guise I would have to say that slavery was right here because after all blacks took their beatings and as long as the beatings are accepted then all must be right with the process.

    That doesn't mean that violence doesn't occur against women, or any minority in Western societies, just that we recognize them for the crimes that they are.

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  7. It sounds like you have been swallowing your daily dose of propaganda that the US did so well during the cold war & have now switched the dose to muslim culuture.

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  8. Matt, I do not have time to provide you with some links right now to "unbrainwash" you, but give me a couple of days...

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  9. I have never suggested we are perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I am not going to sit here and coddle regimes that support raping women under the justification that if they aren't pure then they can't get into heaven. You can call that "cultural" all you like, I call it what it is, abuse.

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  10. And completely off topic, it's nice to see I have been missed around these parts, I should drop in more often, lol.

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  11. please don't generalise with such emotive statements like that Matt & give some factual data. What statistics back up your claims? for fucks sake!

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  12. and completely off topic...I have missed you lol

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  13. It isn't a generalization or emotive, just fact and I am sorry that you see it otherwise. From Iranian Women and Girls - Victims of Exploitation and Violence, Sarvnaz Chitsaz and Soona Samsami
    http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/mhviran.htm


    Rape of Female Prisoners

    In a report on November 22, 1994, the United Nations Special Rapportuer on violence against women said "the public stoning and lashing of women serves to institutionalize violence against women. The Special Rapportuer has received many allegations of such violent punishments being inflicted on women in the Islamic Republic of Iran."

    According to a special "religious decree" issued by Ayatollah Khomeini, virgin women prisoners must be raped before execution to prevent their going to heaven. A Guard conducts the rape the night before their murder. The next day, the religious judge at the prison issues a marriage certificate and sends it to the victim’s family, along with a box of sweets.

    Tens of thousands of women have been subjected to cruel torture and execution. One method is particularly revealing: the Revolutionary Guards fire a single bullet into the womb of women political prisoners, leaving them to bleed to death in a slow process of excruciating pain. Even pregnant women are not spared, and hundreds have been executed with their unborn children. Many defenseless women prisoners are held in what are euphemistically referred to as "residential quarters" in prisons, where the Guards systematically rape them in order to totally destroy them.

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  14. http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/7125713/women-with-suntans-will-be-arrested-in-iran/

    Tehran's police chief has warned that all women bearing a suntan will be arrested and potentially imprisoned, the British Daily Telegraph has reported.

    Brig Hossien Sajedinia spoke out on the issue of female appearance and attire, stating that any woman that violated the "spirit of Islamic law" or looked like a "walking mannequin", would be punished.

    He reportedly said: "The public expects us to act firmly and swiftly if we see any social misbehaviour by women, and men, who defy our Islamic values. In some areas of north Tehran we can see many suntanned women and young girls who look like walking mannequins.

    "We are not going to tolerate this situation and will first warn those found in this manner and then arrest and imprison them."

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  15. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atefah_Sahaaleh

    Atefeh Rajabi Sahaaleh (Persian: عاطفه رجبی سهاله; – 1988 - August 15, 2004) was a 16-year-old schoolgirl from the town of Neka, Iran who was executed a week after being sentenced to death by Haji Rezai, head of Neka's court on charges of adultery and "crimes against chastity". Rezai, who served as the prosecutor, judge and witness also carried out the execution of the teenager himself by placing the noose round Atefeh's neck before she was hoisted on a crane to her death telling her “This will teach you to disobey!”[1][2].

    After the execution of Atefeh, Iranian media reported that Judge Rezai and several militia members including Captain Zabihi and Captain Molai were arrested by the Intelligence Ministry. Inside sources informed the media that in addition to the confession of his rape of Atefeh, Judge Rezai who served as judge, jury and executioner, also confessed to torturing her during interrogations to extract names of others she had relations with.[3] He also confessed to covering up what he and the militia members had done to Atefeh, by speeding up the verdict of execution. Judge Rezai insisted that the verdict and the execution were fully in compliance with the laws of Islam, permitted and sanctioned by the religious authorities [3]. No charges have been made against Rezai.

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  16. you've had your couple of days and then some,,,, lol

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  17. Actually I have to agree with Ang, in that although the crimes against western woman might not be as violently shocking in their method as the odd case reported in Islamic territories, certainly the level of abuse against women is much higher in countries like the US or the UK & Australia than most Islam dominant countries. Yet we try to force feed our sense of morality down their throats.

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  18. I think that is because in Western countries we recognize abuse for what it is and categorize it as such, rather than have it institutionalized in our laws as a way of life. Maybe it is me being on my high horse, but simply because rape is sanctioned doen't make it any less abusive, whether legal or not. Technically it isn't a crime against women if it isn't a crime to begin with. Maybe that is me force feeding my morality, and if that is the case so be it, but I am not getting on the buying into the train of thought that it is okay to treat people as objects because it is cultural. Under that rule then slavery was indeed perfectly fine, blacks were not people just property because that was the culture.

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